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A Bean Split in Two Halves
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Mawlana Shaykh Adnan: We are grateful, Mawlana. May Allah give you long life and protect you.

Mawlana Shaykh Nazim: (Asks cameraman to focus on Shaykh Adnan.)

Mawlana Shaykh Adnan: I am shy Mawlana, especially in the presence of Shaykh Hisham. Mawlana, you know that I am shy.

Cameraman: Astaghfirullah, my uncle. You are full of respect, adab.

Mawlana Shaykh Nazim: Both of you, twins.

Mawlana Shaykh Adnan: Twin. Yes, Mawlana. Like a nutshell, we are on top of each other.

Mawlana Shaykh Hisham: Mawlana Shaykh Abdullah (q) said, “You are like the bean that was split in two, one half here and one half here. You both complete and complement each other.” That day we both made a suhbah without a translator. Together we were in the room, not his (Grandshaykh’s) room, but he took us to the room near the bathroom; there was an old room there, Sayyidee. He gave a suhbah and said, “This is a suhbah from secrets.”

Mawlana Shaykh Nazim: Secrets?

Mawlana Shaykh Hisham: Yes, “secrets,” Sayyidee. I have it written. He said, “You are two, like the bean split into halves: one half is Adnan and one half is you, complementing each other.” That is why he (Shaykh Adnan) is my shaykh. I have kissed his hand, Mawlana, I have kissed his hand. (Shaykh Hisham kisses Shaykh Adnan’s hand.)

Mawlana Shaykh Nazim: Mubarak. Mubarak.

Mawlana Shaykh Nazim: Sure... secrets.

Mawlana Shaykh Adnan: Secrets. Mashaa-Allah, asrar moving all around you (Shaykh Hisham).

Mawlana Shaykh Hisham: There was one from Pakistan called “Ahmad Asrar” (secrets). Sayyidee, when you were at the conference in Los Angeles giving a sermon against Wahabism, his students wanted to bring him by force to give a sermon. We brought him downstairs in the building to give a sermon to five-hundred people. You were giving a sermon to ten-thousand people! He said, “The ones upstairs are religious innovators and the ones downstairs are the ones on the right path.” He was talking about us Sayyidee, that we are innovators, and that the ones downstairs--meaning himself--are on the right path and that he was a caliph. Then he died. He was Pakistani from the group Hezb ul-Tahrir.

Mawlana Shaykh Adnan: Hezb ul-Tableegh. Mawlana, may Allah give you long life and support you with health, safety, strength, inner spiritual knowledge and wisdom, in the presence of the most-distinguished stream in the Divine Kingdom.

Mawlana Shaykh Nazim: “He is The One Who cannot be limited or contained by place or bound by time.” هو الذى لايحيطه مكان ولا يشتمل عليه زمان This is important.

Mawlana Shaykh Hisham: Yes, Sayyidee. This is according to the Islamic madhab Maturidiyah. “He is The One who cannot be limited or contained by place or bound by time.”

Mawlana Shaykh Nazim: Time and space are created. Allah (swt) created time and space. He cannot be limited or contained by place or bound by time.

Mawlana Shaykh Adnan: And the Divine Throne is a place.

Mawlana Shaykh Nazim: For whom?

Mawlana Shaykh Adnan: For the Prophet (s).

Mawlana Shaykh Nazim: Haqq! It is written on the Throne of Allah. There is a throne on top of a throne on top of a throne on top of a throne…..

Mawlana Shaykh Hisham: Thrones.

Mawlana Shaykh Nazim: It is not possible for humans to know the number of thrones. The throne of Allah, King of Kings, is He going to be sitting on a chair?

وَسِعَ كُرْسِيُّهُ السَّمَاوَاتِ وَالأَرْضَ وَلاَ يَؤُودُهُ حِفْظُهُمَا وَهُوَ الْعَلِيُّ الْعَظِيمُ

wasi`a kursiyyuhu ‘s-samawaati waa ‘l-arda wala yaooduhu hifthu huma wahuwa ‘l-`Aliyyu ‘l-`Azeem.

His eternal power spreads over the Heavens and the Earth, and their upholding wearies Him not, and He Alone is truly exalted, tremendous. (Al-Baqara, 2:255)



Mawlana Shaykh Nazim: It is too much for us, leave it.

Mawlana Shaykh Adnan: Yes, Sayyidee. Let us speak about the Throne of the Prophet (s).

Mawlana Shaykh Hisham: lbn Qayyim Al-Jawziyyah (r) said that Allah has created the Throne so he can let Prophet (s) sit on it.

Mawlana Shaykh Nazim: What?

Mawlana Shaykh Adnan: Ibn Qayyim said that Allah is sitting on the Throne and will also let Prophet (s) sit at the Throne.

Mawlana Shaykh Nazim: No minds! No one can know about the Throne of Allah.

Mawlana Shaykh Hisham: This is a new interpretation from you, Sayyidee, “Throne upon throne, upon throne, upon throne.”

Mawlana Shaykh Nazim: It is known to be true. Thrones will always appear in Eternity. We are speaking here in this world. Sayyidina Rifa`i saw a sea in the Fourth Heaven and thought it was water, but it turned out to be sand with no beginning and no end. The closer he came to one grain of sand, he saw a world just like ours, filled with Allah’s Creation, and he heard the call for prayer like our call for prayer, and saw a world like our world, but not an exact copy.

Mawlana Shaykh Hisham: And the Prophet (s) is the prophet for all these worlds.

Mawlana Shaykh Nazim: Yes, and each world is different, and each world has its own Day of Judgment. Prophet Muhammad (s) is the prophet for all worlds! This is the knowledge Sayyidina Rifa`i reached.

Mawlana Shaykh Hisham: May Allah give you more knowledge, Sayyidee.

Mawlana Shaykh Nazim: I am shy to speak before Allah (swt). He is the Lord of all worlds; Rabbi ‘l-Alameen. “Al” is for “all”: The One and Only, the Lord of all worlds! Do not talk about it; we are shy to talk about it. No one can bear the presence of Allah except His Beloved, Muhammad (s)! We can only reach Allah through His Beloved Prophet. He is our channel to Allah. Humans cannot bear the majesty of the Divine Presence: “La ilaaha illa-Llah Muhammadun Rasoolullah,” this is what Allah gave us.

Mawlana Shaykh Adnan: Precious jewels.

Mawlana Shaykh Hisham: Mashaa-Allah Sayyidee, extraordinary manifestations.

Mawlana Shaykh Nazim: Allah’s manifestations are extraordinary. O Allah, forgive our weakness!

Mawlana Shaykh Adnan: Waves of inner spiritual knowledge.

Mawlana Shaykh Nazim: When is `Asr prayer?

Mawlana Shaykh Hisham: After two hours.

Mawlana Shaykh Hisham: Sayyidee, you are full of lights and barakah.

Lefke, 14.04.2011

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