Pictures of Maulana Sheikh NazimInterview with a Representative of the Pope

(Meeting with Mawlana Shaykh Nazim and a representative of the pope, Sir Thomas and his friend John, of Ireland.)

Mawlana Shaykh Nazim: You are leaving?

Sir Thomas: We are leaving for Ireland soon.

Mawlana Shaykh Nazim: Why so quickly?

Sir Thomas: Ah, home, wife, children.

Mawlana Shaykh Nazim: How are you?

Sir Thomas: Good, good, good.

Mawlana Shaykh Nazim: How is His Holiness?

Sir Thomas: He had a very good trip and he was very proud to meet you. He seemed to be very proud to have met you; an old friend.

Mawlana Shaykh Nazim: I am nothing.

Sir Thomas: Two brothers, it was lovely to see two brothers embrace.

Mawlana Shaykh Nazim: He is younger than me.

Sir Thomas: It was lovely to see it, Mawlana.

Sir Thomas: Ah, look at this , beautiful. (As Mawlana holds a newspaper for Sir Thomas to see.)

Mawlana Shaykh Nazim: Would you like to take this?

Sir Thomas: It was beautiful, it was two brothers meeting. Nothing needs to be said, embrace... and he was at your home. He met you at your home?

Mawlana Shaykh Nazim: SubhanAllah, I was growing up in that area and who knows that someday I am going to meet with the head of Catholics, His Holiness, the Pope. I am so surprised.

Sir Thomas: InshaaAllah, this is beautiful. It is a great honor for you. I am delighted for you, that you had met His Holiness.

Mawlana Shaykh Nazim: He is happy?

Sir Thomas: Yes, I think everyone was happy. It was a great honor for you and it was a fantastic visit by the people of Cyprus, to meet all the spiritual people of Cyprus. And alhamdulillah that he met you at your home.

Mawlana Shaykh Nazim: Alhamdulillah, I am so proud, I am so proud.

Sir Thomas: I am so proud as well. We are friends for a long time, ten years, and you have treated me like your own son and I am so proud. I think of you every day, and I know you are in my heart.

Mawlana Shaykh Nazim: Yes, yes , yes, but a big son. (Mawlana Shaykh gives Sir Thomas a playful tap on his head and everyone laughs.)

Sir Thomas: So Shaykh Bahauddin, your son, came to meet us at the hotel today and said, “He wants to see you." John wanted to say goodbye, he is very impressed; John saw you at the top of the Basilica in Rome, at St. Peters, when you sang the call to prayer at the Basilica in Rome.

John: On the TV.

Sir Thomas: And I told him that you had done it.

Mawlana Shaykh Nazim: He is so young one! (laughter)

Sir Thomas: I was telling him the story and he said, "I saw it on television."

Mawlana Shaykh Nazim: Who is saying?

Sir Thomas: John, 'said John.' (laughter)

John: I did.

Mawlana Shaykh Nazim: I am so happy.

Sir Thomas: I am so happy for you, we visited you, but we couldn't say, as we were only guests as well, of the pope.

Mawlana Shaykh Nazim: SubhanAllah, if we were meeting inside it was not suitable; when coming outside, it was the best.

Sir Thomas: And we visited the church today to view where you sat when His Holiness came out; it was the Church of the Holy Cross, and our symbol is that symbol.

John: I am sorry you didn't get inside, because I was inside the church at the time.

Sir Thomas: He was inside when you were outside, and he missed you and so I said, “You didn’t see the Shaykh?”

Mawlana Shaykh Nazim: If we were meeting inside it was not suitable; outside was best. But there was one cardinal, like an elephant, saying, “He can't meet His Holiness.” I was so angry, I was going to go back. No adab that cardinal!

Sir Thomas: Yes, it was silly. We met at the hotel when you arrived, I should have gone down with you. I wish I could have gone in the car with you, but you had got it all worked out perfectly, because nobody can stop God's work, no one.

Mawlana Shaykh Nazim: Allahu Akbar!

Sir Thomas: It was such a busy trip for His Holiness; everybody wanted to see him, everyone wanted to touch him, but you, walked in and embraced him. No one embraced him, but you did.

Mawlana Shaykh Nazim: Yes, no one embracing him, because... my younger brother.

Sir Thomas: Yes, and it was good to see it, and the world has recognized it and His Holiness looks for people who understand each others' traditions and can work together and they to pray to their God. And since I have known you, that is what you want, to work together and understand people, whatever their religious rites are, and pray to their God, and I have heard you say it more than once.

Mawlana Shaykh Nazim: I am so happy I am kissing him. (Mawlana Shaykh gestures for Sir Thomas to come nearer and hugs him.)

Sir Thomas: When you did it to me ten years ago I knew that I had met a father.

John: I am honored to have met you and the pope all in the same week.

Mawlana Shaykh Nazim: MashaaAllah.

Sir Thomas: So I am going to let you do your stately work, we have entered your hospitality just to say goodbye and to say how much you are in our hearts. Pray for us. We need your prayers.

Mawlana Shaykh Nazim: I will, I will, I will. We have a grave also where we are sitting with Jesus, powerful one.

Sir Thomas: When you sit with him again, tell him about the poor souls here, ask him to pray for us, we need his help.

Mawlana Shaykh Nazim: No one is welcoming His Holiness as we are welcoming; enough. People may welcome him in big halls and big places but we are so humble ones.

Sir Thomas: Well, as a humble servant of God, I felt you met him at your home. I didn't know your home was there and you met him there and that is God's work. It was lovely to see you. I think the world loved to see what has happened because the truth was there.

Mawlana Shaykh Nazim: I never even perhaps dreaming, but I forgot that one day, His Holiness the Pope, is coming to visit in my place.

Sir Thomas: In your home-church, so salaam...and your prayers and blessings for our poor souls in Ireland.

Mawlana Shaykh Nazim: You need to be more fat.

Sir Thomas: My wife wouldn’t agree with you Mawlana! My salaams, my friend and we hopefully will meet again, it would be your call. (They embrace, give parting greetings.)

Mawlana Shaykh Nazim: Say to the cardinal, “Shaykh was unhappy with you.” Would you like to take this with you? (Mawlana shows a newspaper with a picture of him and the f.)

Sir Thomas: Thank you, Mawlana.

Lefke, 07.06.2010

CategoryInterview, CategoryChristianity
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